Bloodlands has ratings and reviews. Mieczyslaw said: I was raised amongst survivors of the great horror that was the War in Eastern Europe. My. Tim Snyder’s ambitious Bloodlands set out to place the murderous regimes of the Third Reich and Stalin’s Soviet Union in their overlapping European contexts. Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin. By Timothy Snyder. (New York, NY: Basic Books, Pp. $) The author of this.

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Aug 13, David Singerman rated it it was amazing Shelves: Impressive source material, very interesting perspective with treating the Soviet-German-Soviet-occupied zones of Europe durope one and telling the story about these nigh Quite massive, covering an extremely bloody and violent europw and place in less than pages.

Snyder’s book earned a rating of Four Stars in my library. Similarly, we see a steady stream of scholars attempting to assert the wider contexts for Nazi violence — in terms of the history of imperialism; the wider history of genocide or of inter-ethnic tensions beyond simply a history of German antisemitism. Even an invading army can pass over a land like a wave and leave society Timothy Snyder’s “Bloodlands” I don’t know enough about Eastern-European history to address Snyder’s claim that the mass killing of fourteen million people in Poland, Belarus, the Baltic states and western Russia was “the central event” of modern European history.

Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin by Timothy Snyder

I have finished it for the first time, but I surely have to read it another time and another, for there is much to learn from it. The question of the context in which we betwwen understand the genocide of the Jews remains the central concern for scholars of this period, even if answers are often widely and politically differentiated.

By which I mean it is an analysis cast after the Holocaust had been cemented within a wider historical consciousness.

However, the subject of the Holocaust is one which I’ve avoided mostly because it’s just too damn depressing, and while this book covers a broader topic it’s probably one I would have skipped in the past. Treblinka, once it was running at full efficiency and maximum capacity, is the real horror and centerpiece europf the book.

The images their photographers and cameramen captured of the corpses and the living skeletons at Bergen-Belsen and Buchenwald seemed to convey the worst crimes of Hitler We can get to the [gas] trucks on our own.

Dovid Katza historian of Lithuanian Jewrycommented that “Snyder flirts with the very wrong moral equivalence between Hitler and Stalin […] None of these incidents besides the Holocaust involved the willful massacre of a whole race.


These men were inspired by the conquest of the American West and the liquidation of its native population. Counting the hunger victims in besieged Leningrad, this most primitive method of mass killing took something like four million lives in the course of the war.

Nov 24, Holly rated it it was amazing Shelves: Jan 11, Matt rated it really liked it Shelves: Bot Hitler and Stalin carried out bloodlancs policy of extermination, where there was no place for Jews and Slavic people or enemies of the state.

Bloodlands: Europe between Hitler and Stalin

He starts with the 3. Impressive source material, very interesting perspective with treating the Soviet-German-Soviet-occupied zones of Europe as one and telling the story about these nightmare years as one tale, one narrative.

The first was to bring together the enormous mass betweej fresh research — some of it his own — into Soviet and Nazi killing, and produce something like a final and definitive account. He pointed out that the two main components of this policy from the ‘s onwards had been 1 Rather substantial subsidies to farmers for not growing certain crops, and 2 Also rather large subsidies to industry and academia for research directed toward the increase in yields for the same crops that farmers were already paid not to grow.

While well-written, often captivating, and thoroughly footnoted extensive references in English, Polish, German and Russianit is undeniably a depressing book. Neal Ascherson’s The Black Sea: Snyder was in part motivated by what he felt were the limitations of a general understanding of the Holocaust in the 21st century despite the widespread acceptance of the importance of remembering these events. Open Preview See a Problem? Mr Hitlre shifts the usual geographical focus away from the perpetrator countries to the places where they first colluded and then collided.

Perhaps this eurole just a rhetorical move it’s easier to say “Stalin xed” than it is to lay out everything that went into that xbut the effect is a little confounding. The millions who died and the millions more who suffered were not ‘collateral damage’ incidental to war, they were the point of the war on both sides. By any standards Stalin and Hitler were mad. The blkodlands of the press in reporting the factual detail of events was matched by the ineptitude of the intelligence and ambassadorial services in analysing their own sources of information.

Could not search author. His numbers are precise, his research is crisp, and the stories he could find – drawn from a dizzying variety of sources – strike at your heart like knives. The German settlers moved into the area would deal with native populations in a manner similar to the way American settlers pushed and killed the Indians out of the way. Mar 14, Manray9 rated it really liked it Shelves: That wouldn’t at all matter, except that Western historians and Eastern European journalists and public figures have recently made a lot of hay out of not being Nazis e.


Snyder insists that the colossal atrocities in his “bloodlands” have to be set inside a single historical frame. Snyder tries to work on two levels simultaneously, by also attempting an explanation at what it means today. In German-occupied Poland alone, half a million Soviet prisoners starved to death. This dtalin is very bleak reading. Guy Walters writing in the Timotby Times said he found the book disturbing, writing.

It continued with the Great Terror in andwhere approximatedly So the decision was taken to solve the whole remaining “Jewish problem” by mass murder. The central ‘show’ according to this view was timotby in Western Europe or Southeast Asia but in precisely that area for which both powers contended for ztalin land, Snyder’s Bloodlands.

Mac A grim collation of the 20th century’s most catastrophic butcheries. But most had been shot and pitched into mass graves by German police units operating far to the east in Ukraine, the Baltics and Belarus, the Timlthy who moved from village to village behind the front lines of war.

Later, as knowledge of Auschwitz spread, came the image of “impersonal” industrialised killing. Beyond death, it is also a book about survival and about human dignity in the face of crushing oppression. But were then also the millions of previously normal citizens who necessarily carried out and even supplemented their malicious commands also mad?

It describes an area from the North Sea to the Crimean Sea and from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine that was the scene of millions of deaths between – Her best friend survived Auschwitz. Getween has always bothered me because it omits the millions of human beings who were not Jewish but were victims of the policies of death. There is something very different going on, beyond politics, when people try to murder all the babies of a race.

The story is not one of conflict and victory or loss but of joint stlain by Hitler and Stalin of a victim-population of Poles, Slavs, Jews and other ethnic groups.